Club Admiralty Blog
A blog about life in general, in as many languages as I can manage. Ενα ιστολόγιο περι ζωής, πολυγλωσσο - σε όσες γλωσσες εχω μεράκι να γράψω.
iPod vs. Newton
%PM, %b %America/Chicago %2009, %R TechnologyContinuing my series of reposts of mailings that I find interesting about the future of the newton from the NewtonTalk list, here's one from Carlos Santiago. I've added some comments and personal views in
Carlo's Post:
I was prompted by the 2010 timeframe barrier I'd heard about but I made the switch after v2.0 of the system software which had abilities much better in regards to email than the earlier version; at 1.x it most mostly an ipod but the 2.0 software brought it close to a pda but 100% and no where, anywhere close near a Newton.But I then sold off my iPAQ and BT GPS unit as we also gotten a Garmin GPS which made the switchover possible.
It took a while for me to make the switch, mentally, everything important I had on my 2100 and PDA. Key apps there I vitally needed and used.
I'm not a twenty something wanting a gaming only device (but not that there's anything wrong with that! - these folks in part fueled Apple in recent months and this platform after all) but needed a PDA which approched Newton status. My iPod isn't a Newton but I'm finding less is more in some areas.
What I like:
What I dis-like
And neutral items...
Would like to see items
Overall I'm happy I made the switch; but miss my 2100.
code format
Carlo's Post:
I was prompted by the 2010 timeframe barrier I'd heard about but I made the switch after v2.0 of the system software which had abilities much better in regards to email than the earlier version; at 1.x it most mostly an ipod but the 2.0 software brought it close to a pda but 100% and no where, anywhere close near a Newton.But I then sold off my iPAQ and BT GPS unit as we also gotten a Garmin GPS which made the switchover possible.
It took a while for me to make the switch, mentally, everything important I had on my 2100 and PDA. Key apps there I vitally needed and used.
- cut-n-paste! poor man's inter-app messaging
- Newton notes; still no clear replacement
- Newton calendar; Pocket Informant on the PDA made that platform a good transition but the Newton was the gold standard so it'll be tough to replace
- Newton inter-app slip messaging; but things are slowly improving within key apps
- PDA Pocket Informant; a PIM that's coming this month!
I'm not a twenty something wanting a gaming only device (but not that there's anything wrong with that! - these folks in part fueled Apple in recent months and this platform after all) but needed a PDA which approched Newton status. My iPod isn't a Newton but I'm finding less is more in some areas.
What I like:
- speed; I now juggle 6 email accounts; evan google and yahoo along with work, etc.
- apps availability; I often buy apps I like hoping support will spur further advances; most feature 'free' subset versions which is vital since all sales are final - and tied to you; you can't resell.
- web browsing - full screen and fast; however in recent months some sites take to dumming down their site when then see an iPOD; wrong approach; some offer a choice of classic or iPod site view; much better
- GREAT - f-n-GREAT (so far) app s/w provider support; I think they see the future ahead of most users and are running in droves to the unit; I can only hope some exNewton titles make it here.
I have all of my email accounts (except for my Hotmail account) on my iPod Touch and it's great! On my N800 I don't have everything. The again, I purchased the device for web browsing, not email handling. I only have my mobile me account on the N800 since I can't use the browser to check the mail. Hotmail, yahoo and gmail are all easily accessible on the maemo browser.
What I dis-like
- small sceen resolution with BIG UI interface controls means display real estate is an absolute premium; most apps either waste space or feature too much whitespace. There are some PDA style apps which try to cram too much info but I think within the next year the UI and developers will come to terms and deliver great apps - my hope anyway.
- poor apps sometimes crash the unit; recent I took to emailing one developer on their latest update and was totally floored at the response; *GREAT* had a new, fixed, app in a few days. Oh, and this app was *FREE*
I really would like to see some category for gag apps. I don't care that people are making fart or bouncing boob apps, but it really makes it hard to look for good apps when the gag apps are taking up so much space.
And neutral items...
- it's not a PDA let alone Newton. In the 2.1 s/w release Apple heard first hand that some folks actualy rely on their units for something other than on demand music purchase and play. Given the wider, non-game app availability, I suggested they spend a bit more time in QA; they appear to be.
- yes there's no stylus; it's up to the app the make the UI transition to gesture based input. it's funny to see HWR attempts etc. on this unit. IMHO those apps just don't get it (aka those don't dogs won't hunt;-) It's hard but you do need to rethink things from scratch.
Would like to see items
- Newton notes; folders, outlines, todo, style sheets, etc. partridge in a pear tree...
- universal platform issues; cut-n-paste, messaging, 'back' ability. Each app execution replaces rather than pushes current apps. You can return to the former app after pressing the home button and navigating to it but I'd like to see a 'go back' button or gesture to do this. That would go a long way to addressing inter-app slip passing as app design all feature a fast save state ability you pick up just where you left off.
- built-in camera
- speaker (2nd gen unit already has this)
- dump AT&T in favor of generic provider support; this is part of larger soap box to have all cell phone carriers compete by using a U.S. then world-wide cell phone network topology and technology; we'd then see real competition vs. the fiefdoms we have now.
- overall h/w improvements; 3rd party storage & batter upgrades - don't try this yourself
Overall I'm happy I made the switch; but miss my 2100.
I agree. I still have my 2100, I don't use it and I miss it. But I am happy to be using an iPod Touch and N800 instead
Comments

Archive
%08/%2025 (3)
%07/%2025 (2)
%05/%2025 (2)
%04/%2025 (1)
%01/%2025 (4)
%12/%2024 (18)
%11/%2024 (1)
%09/%2024 (1)
%08/%2024 (6)
%07/%2024 (8)
%04/%2024 (2)
%12/%2023 (10)
%11/%2023 (14)
%10/%2023 (4)
%09/%2023 (4)
%08/%2023 (3)
%07/%2023 (1)
%06/%2023 (11)
%04/%2023 (5)
%02/%2023 (2)
%12/%2022 (10)
%11/%2022 (9)
%10/%2022 (6)
%09/%2022 (8)
%08/%2022 (1)
%07/%2022 (6)
%06/%2022 (7)
%05/%2022 (6)
%04/%2022 (7)
%03/%2022 (8)
%02/%2022 (3)
%01/%2022 (10)
%12/%2021 (19)
%11/%2021 (14)
%10/%2021 (12)
%09/%2021 (16)
%08/%2021 (20)
%07/%2021 (8)
%06/%2021 (2)
%05/%2021 (1)
%02/%2021 (1)
%01/%2021 (6)
%12/%2020 (4)
%11/%2020 (3)
%10/%2020 (3)
%09/%2020 (4)
%08/%2020 (3)
%07/%2020 (4)
%06/%2020 (15)
%05/%2020 (11)
%04/%2020 (1)
%03/%2020 (8)
%02/%2020 (13)
%01/%2020 (6)
%12/%2019 (18)
%11/%2019 (14)
%10/%2019 (2)
%09/%2019 (9)
%08/%2019 (6)
%07/%2019 (10)
%06/%2019 (9)
%05/%2019 (8)
%04/%2019 (11)
%03/%2019 (17)
%02/%2019 (6)
%01/%2019 (4)
%12/%2018 (9)
%11/%2018 (9)
%10/%2018 (8)
%08/%2018 (2)
%05/%2018 (15)
%04/%2018 (21)
%03/%2018 (30)
%02/%2018 (31)
%01/%2018 (22)
%12/%2017 (21)
%11/%2017 (25)
%10/%2017 (20)
%09/%2017 (24)
%08/%2017 (25)
%07/%2017 (30)
%06/%2017 (33)
%05/%2017 (27)
%04/%2017 (28)
%03/%2017 (32)
%02/%2017 (31)
%01/%2017 (28)
%12/%2016 (32)
%11/%2016 (35)
%10/%2016 (28)
%09/%2016 (27)
%08/%2016 (28)
%07/%2016 (32)
%06/%2016 (34)
%05/%2016 (32)
%04/%2016 (36)
%03/%2016 (31)
%02/%2016 (37)
%01/%2016 (28)
%12/%2015 (28)
%11/%2015 (26)
%10/%2015 (17)
%09/%2015 (13)
%08/%2015 (14)
%07/%2015 (8)
%06/%2015 (7)
%05/%2015 (5)
%04/%2015 (9)
%03/%2015 (3)
%02/%2015 (4)
%01/%2015 (3)
%12/%2014 (4)
%11/%2014 (9)
%10/%2014 (2)
%09/%2014 (4)
%08/%2014 (1)
%07/%2014 (3)
%06/%2014 (3)
%05/%2014 (3)
%04/%2014 (3)
%03/%2014 (3)
%02/%2014 (1)
%01/%2014 (1)
%12/%2013 (3)
%11/%2013 (1)
%10/%2013 (7)
%09/%2013 (3)
%08/%2013 (5)
%07/%2013 (9)
%06/%2013 (3)
%05/%2013 (3)
%04/%2013 (7)
%03/%2013 (5)
%02/%2013 (4)
%01/%2013 (1)
%12/%2012 (4)
%11/%2012 (2)
%10/%2012 (8)
%09/%2012 (9)
%08/%2012 (7)
%07/%2012 (5)
%06/%2012 (12)
%05/%2012 (6)
%04/%2012 (6)
%03/%2012 (10)
%02/%2012 (14)
%01/%2012 (11)
%12/%2011 (9)
%11/%2011 (15)
%10/%2011 (15)
%09/%2011 (11)
%08/%2011 (13)
%07/%2011 (16)
%06/%2011 (6)
%05/%2011 (13)
%04/%2011 (9)
%03/%2011 (8)
%02/%2011 (8)
%01/%2011 (7)
%12/%2010 (6)
%11/%2010 (1)
%10/%2010 (1)
%09/%2010 (5)
%08/%2010 (10)
%07/%2010 (21)
%06/%2010 (24)
%05/%2010 (15)
%04/%2010 (11)
%03/%2010 (3)
%02/%2010 (6)
%01/%2010 (12)
%12/%2009 (23)
%11/%2009 (15)
%10/%2009 (19)
%09/%2009 (32)
%08/%2009 (31)
%07/%2009 (35)
%06/%2009 (38)
%05/%2009 (25)
%04/%2009 (3)
%03/%2009 (18)
%02/%2009 (25)
%01/%2009 (37)
%12/%2008 (45)
%11/%2008 (49)
%10/%2008 (49)
%09/%2008 (32)
%08/%2008 (22)
%07/%2008 (19)
%06/%2008 (26)
%05/%2008 (47)
%04/%2008 (81)
%03/%2008 (62)
%02/%2008 (28)
%01/%2008 (15)
%12/%2007 (33)
%11/%2007 (16)
%10/%2007 (11)
%09/%2007 (4)
%08/%2007 (6)
%07/%2007 (17)
%06/%2007 (9)
%05/%2007 (50)
%04/%2007 (77)
%03/%2007 (48)
%02/%2007 (27)
%01/%2007 (29)
%12/%2006 (35)
%11/%2006 (28)
%10/%2006 (19)
%09/%2006 (14)
%08/%2006 (33)
%07/%2006 (22)
%06/%2006 (25)
%05/%2006 (40)
%04/%2006 (49)
%03/%2006 (38)
%02/%2006 (37)
%01/%2006 (14)
%12/%2005 (17)
%11/%2005 (11)
%10/%2005 (14)
%09/%2005 (12)
%08/%2005 (1)
%07/%2005 (1)
%06/%2005 (2)
%05/%2005 (1)
%04/%2005 (2)
%01/%2005 (1)
%11/%2004 (1)
%10/%2004 (2)
%08/%2004 (2)
%07/%2004 (4)
%05/%2004 (2)
%03/%2004 (2)
%02/%2004 (2)
%01/%2004 (2)
%12/%2003 (2)
%06/%2003 (2)
%09/%2000 (3)
%05/%2000 (2)
%04/%2000 (1)
%02/%2000 (1)
%07/%2025 (2)
%05/%2025 (2)
%04/%2025 (1)
%01/%2025 (4)
%12/%2024 (18)
%11/%2024 (1)
%09/%2024 (1)
%08/%2024 (6)
%07/%2024 (8)
%04/%2024 (2)
%12/%2023 (10)
%11/%2023 (14)
%10/%2023 (4)
%09/%2023 (4)
%08/%2023 (3)
%07/%2023 (1)
%06/%2023 (11)
%04/%2023 (5)
%02/%2023 (2)
%12/%2022 (10)
%11/%2022 (9)
%10/%2022 (6)
%09/%2022 (8)
%08/%2022 (1)
%07/%2022 (6)
%06/%2022 (7)
%05/%2022 (6)
%04/%2022 (7)
%03/%2022 (8)
%02/%2022 (3)
%01/%2022 (10)
%12/%2021 (19)
%11/%2021 (14)
%10/%2021 (12)
%09/%2021 (16)
%08/%2021 (20)
%07/%2021 (8)
%06/%2021 (2)
%05/%2021 (1)
%02/%2021 (1)
%01/%2021 (6)
%12/%2020 (4)
%11/%2020 (3)
%10/%2020 (3)
%09/%2020 (4)
%08/%2020 (3)
%07/%2020 (4)
%06/%2020 (15)
%05/%2020 (11)
%04/%2020 (1)
%03/%2020 (8)
%02/%2020 (13)
%01/%2020 (6)
%12/%2019 (18)
%11/%2019 (14)
%10/%2019 (2)
%09/%2019 (9)
%08/%2019 (6)
%07/%2019 (10)
%06/%2019 (9)
%05/%2019 (8)
%04/%2019 (11)
%03/%2019 (17)
%02/%2019 (6)
%01/%2019 (4)
%12/%2018 (9)
%11/%2018 (9)
%10/%2018 (8)
%08/%2018 (2)
%05/%2018 (15)
%04/%2018 (21)
%03/%2018 (30)
%02/%2018 (31)
%01/%2018 (22)
%12/%2017 (21)
%11/%2017 (25)
%10/%2017 (20)
%09/%2017 (24)
%08/%2017 (25)
%07/%2017 (30)
%06/%2017 (33)
%05/%2017 (27)
%04/%2017 (28)
%03/%2017 (32)
%02/%2017 (31)
%01/%2017 (28)
%12/%2016 (32)
%11/%2016 (35)
%10/%2016 (28)
%09/%2016 (27)
%08/%2016 (28)
%07/%2016 (32)
%06/%2016 (34)
%05/%2016 (32)
%04/%2016 (36)
%03/%2016 (31)
%02/%2016 (37)
%01/%2016 (28)
%12/%2015 (28)
%11/%2015 (26)
%10/%2015 (17)
%09/%2015 (13)
%08/%2015 (14)
%07/%2015 (8)
%06/%2015 (7)
%05/%2015 (5)
%04/%2015 (9)
%03/%2015 (3)
%02/%2015 (4)
%01/%2015 (3)
%12/%2014 (4)
%11/%2014 (9)
%10/%2014 (2)
%09/%2014 (4)
%08/%2014 (1)
%07/%2014 (3)
%06/%2014 (3)
%05/%2014 (3)
%04/%2014 (3)
%03/%2014 (3)
%02/%2014 (1)
%01/%2014 (1)
%12/%2013 (3)
%11/%2013 (1)
%10/%2013 (7)
%09/%2013 (3)
%08/%2013 (5)
%07/%2013 (9)
%06/%2013 (3)
%05/%2013 (3)
%04/%2013 (7)
%03/%2013 (5)
%02/%2013 (4)
%01/%2013 (1)
%12/%2012 (4)
%11/%2012 (2)
%10/%2012 (8)
%09/%2012 (9)
%08/%2012 (7)
%07/%2012 (5)
%06/%2012 (12)
%05/%2012 (6)
%04/%2012 (6)
%03/%2012 (10)
%02/%2012 (14)
%01/%2012 (11)
%12/%2011 (9)
%11/%2011 (15)
%10/%2011 (15)
%09/%2011 (11)
%08/%2011 (13)
%07/%2011 (16)
%06/%2011 (6)
%05/%2011 (13)
%04/%2011 (9)
%03/%2011 (8)
%02/%2011 (8)
%01/%2011 (7)
%12/%2010 (6)
%11/%2010 (1)
%10/%2010 (1)
%09/%2010 (5)
%08/%2010 (10)
%07/%2010 (21)
%06/%2010 (24)
%05/%2010 (15)
%04/%2010 (11)
%03/%2010 (3)
%02/%2010 (6)
%01/%2010 (12)
%12/%2009 (23)
%11/%2009 (15)
%10/%2009 (19)
%09/%2009 (32)
%08/%2009 (31)
%07/%2009 (35)
%06/%2009 (38)
%05/%2009 (25)
%04/%2009 (3)
%03/%2009 (18)
%02/%2009 (25)
%01/%2009 (37)
%12/%2008 (45)
%11/%2008 (49)
%10/%2008 (49)
%09/%2008 (32)
%08/%2008 (22)
%07/%2008 (19)
%06/%2008 (26)
%05/%2008 (47)
%04/%2008 (81)
%03/%2008 (62)
%02/%2008 (28)
%01/%2008 (15)
%12/%2007 (33)
%11/%2007 (16)
%10/%2007 (11)
%09/%2007 (4)
%08/%2007 (6)
%07/%2007 (17)
%06/%2007 (9)
%05/%2007 (50)
%04/%2007 (77)
%03/%2007 (48)
%02/%2007 (27)
%01/%2007 (29)
%12/%2006 (35)
%11/%2006 (28)
%10/%2006 (19)
%09/%2006 (14)
%08/%2006 (33)
%07/%2006 (22)
%06/%2006 (25)
%05/%2006 (40)
%04/%2006 (49)
%03/%2006 (38)
%02/%2006 (37)
%01/%2006 (14)
%12/%2005 (17)
%11/%2005 (11)
%10/%2005 (14)
%09/%2005 (12)
%08/%2005 (1)
%07/%2005 (1)
%06/%2005 (2)
%05/%2005 (1)
%04/%2005 (2)
%01/%2005 (1)
%11/%2004 (1)
%10/%2004 (2)
%08/%2004 (2)
%07/%2004 (4)
%05/%2004 (2)
%03/%2004 (2)
%02/%2004 (2)
%01/%2004 (2)
%12/%2003 (2)
%06/%2003 (2)
%09/%2000 (3)
%05/%2000 (2)
%04/%2000 (1)
%02/%2000 (1)
